CS Radio - The Official Podcast of University of Pennsylvania Career Services

221: We're Back! (You're on Spring Break!)

Episode Summary

Having finally settled into our new building and new studio, Michael and Natty return to CS Radio just in time to offer some spring break networking advice.

Episode Notes

Having finally settled into our new building and new studio, Michael and Natty return to CS Radio just in time to offer some spring break networking advice.

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Episode Transcription

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Michael DeAngelis: Hey! Welcome everyone to episode 221 of CS Radio. I'm J. Michael DeAngelis.

 

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Natty Leach: And I'm Natty Leach.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: And Natty, we're back after a long, long break. It's been almost 2 months.

 

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Natty Leach: I was shocked. You had the number ready.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Well, luckily, I

 

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Michael DeAngelis: I had the. I had our our logo up as a test graphic earlier, and it said, 2, 20. So I was like, okay, we're 2, 21. And I guess actually, it's been over 2 months, because we're into March now.

 

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Natty Leach: Yeah.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: We haven't recorded since December, so it's been almost 3 months.

 

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Natty Leach: It's been a while, but we have a lot of new toys, new things to showcase all sorts of stuff.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Yes, so we are coming to. You. Live from our new location

 

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Michael DeAngelis: 39, 35, Walnut Street.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and one of the great perks of this new building

 

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Michael DeAngelis: is Cs radio has its very own media studio. So this is our 1st

 

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Michael DeAngelis: recording in our new space. We're hoping that when you come back from Spring Break we'll be back to weekly shows. We're going to start live streaming. We are doing some video recording today. But I'm here alone in the studio. Natty's coming to me via zoom! I've got him up on the big screen.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and so we might have to edit this one in post and get it up on Youtube. But we're hoping from now on we'll be able to go right, live to Youtube. It's an exciting new era. And I'm so happy to be here. I'm so happy to be back on the podcast.

 

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Natty Leach: Our 1st studio recording, and I'm not even there in.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Not even there. I can't even be bothered to come in for a big day. I take full responsibility. We scheduled this for yesterday, and I just assumed my my Wednesday was wide open, but I had a really important meeting. So always always look at your calendars, kids. Your lesson for this this week. Cs radio.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and it is sort of a weird timing, because here we are. We're finally getting back to recording the semester and everybody's leaving for spring Break. Natty.

 

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Natty Leach: It's spring break. I think people have been leaving, and we were talking about this since like earlier this week. I don't totally know how the students pull it off. But I talked to people, and they're like, Yeah, I'm taking 2 weeks off.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: It is.

 

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Natty Leach: Break.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: It is really quiet today in the office. I think it's really quiet on campus. There's only about. There's only about 4 of us in the office today. And so it's extra quiet. Not a lot of foot traffic.

 

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Natty Leach: Sends out those maps every morning. And I was like, Oh, yeah, there's basically no one there.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: I've been hearing some grumblings all week long about no shows or points, because, yeah, I think spring break mode. By the time you're listening to this. It'll be the 1st day of spring break, or the 1st weekday of spring break, and so I think everybody's just in vacation mode and well deserved. It's been a long couple of weeks, I'm sure. Everybody's getting through their midterms

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and projects and assignments and and recruiting. We've had a lot of recruiting coming to campus. It's been nice to see folks in our new space, and we know there's a lot of.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: you know, traditional recruiting going on too, virtually and in person. So it's it's a busy time for everybody.

 

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Natty Leach: Yeah, it's really busy. My appointment schedule was mostly open, so I didn't even bother like closing anything. I had 3 people last night at 8 Pm. Sign up for appointments early this morning.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Grab those slots before they leave for Cabo.

 

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Natty Leach: All 3 of them cancelled in the morning.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Oh!

 

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Natty Leach: I. I approve them within a few minutes, and then I guess they thought better of it, or maybe they thought it was, for like when they were back, and they just assumed that we're already students always assume we're closed and not available over spring break. But.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Amazing yeah.

 

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Natty Leach: Here we are!

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Well, we put. I was working with our employer relations team today. It was their turn to create some social media content, and they were

 

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Michael DeAngelis: trying to figure out a good angle for a spring break post, and I was like, how about the angle is we're open. We're not on Spring break. So if you've got some downtime and you want to touch base with us, we're available. People have virtual appointments. If you're staying on campus, you can come on over. We'd be happy to see you in the new space. And yeah, spring break's definitely a time to relax. But I think a spring break's a great opportunity to, you know, if you want.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: do a little bit of career work, do a little bit of networking.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: do a little bit of career exploration.

 

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Natty Leach: I think it's good not to have anything on your schedule. But then, yeah, let it be a chance for you to

 

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Natty Leach: ease into some things if you haven't done networking yet. I talked to a lot of 1st year. Students like Spring breaks a good time to ease into it, because you could either lean on the research side of it where you don't have to exhaust yourself any further by having a ton of conversations. You could just kind of sit back at your own pace, browse Linkedin, look through the Penn alumni database.

 

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Natty Leach: Look through handshakes, try to identify certain companies that you're interested in, and see if there's any pen alumni working there. You can do a lot of that like reconnaissance work without having to drain yourself, I think, is useful, or if you are a very social person, you could think of spring Break as being your opportunity to network and talk to people. Your schedule is going to be much more free that could be with either people that you reach out to at these companies.

 

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Natty Leach: or it could be just your friends. I mean, we've talked about on the past and podcasts is like your friends and your peers are also an important part of your network.

 

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Natty Leach: And many times people who are going home for spring break, get a chance to see friends, or connect with people who aren't necessarily at Penn, but are so close to them, and you can learn and hear about all the amazing stories that they've been going through over the last few semesters. What their plans are this summer. I think it's still a good opportunity to even like. Think about your social experiences also as being productive in terms of networking. You don't have to turn your social things into networking if you don't want to.

 

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Natty Leach: But you are being productive in some sort of way, because you are hopefully learning a little bit about your friends that you haven't necessarily gotten a chance to connect with in a while.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Yeah, we just we just put out a a really great little Youtube short that my work study Carson put together about how to ace a networking call. And just like I was. Really, I was really.

 

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Natty Leach: I saw that. And he's in huntsman. Right? He was sitting in the yeah. I saw that yesterday.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Yeah, but I was. I was really pleased that the angle that he took was to really approach it, you know, professionally, but casually. Don't put too much pressure on it, you know. Have your questions. Learn about that person's experience, you know. Remember, you know, we stress this all the time

 

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Michael DeAngelis: an early networking call in particular. You're not. It really shouldn't be like you shouldn't have an ask other than to information gather. So you want to learn how what that person's journey was, you know. How did they get from Penn to whatever their current job is? What's the culture like that office? What has their experience been. And you know, if you've got an ask, it's sort of like, well, what advice do you have for me as someone

 

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Michael DeAngelis: looking for an internship or a full time job at that employer. What tips can you give me? But it's definitely not like, Hey, who can you? You know I was, gonna say, who can you introduce me to? Because I think it is okay to say, is there anyone else you think I should talk to another Penn person or someone.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: you know. Maybe you're in a different department than I'm interested in. Do you know anyone in the marketing department where I'd like to work that I could connect with. So that sort of ask is okay. But like not, who can you put your res? Who can you put my resume in front of how, you know. Can you get my foot in the door? Those kinds of things? It's just about having a conversation. So a real shout out to Carson for doing that. Also, I thought a very funny ending where his friend got a little too close with the camera, and he's like.

 

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Natty Leach: All that it was like moving close.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: They're doing a great job. Our our entire team, Alan and Carson, our work studies, who've been putting out a lot of great social media content, but also our our office. In fact, I'm told.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: while I'm down here in the studio upstairs in the career services suite, some, some content is being filmed. They wouldn't tell me what what it is, but it's for next week's social media post. So I'm really excited to. It's Dustin and Laura cooking something up.

 

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Natty Leach: Not not people. You should be trusting.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Well, I do have full editorial control. So if it doesn't, if it doesn't go out, I think you'll know. You'll know why.

 

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Natty Leach: Also, I'm just kidding. Those 2 are definitely on top of things. I saw you sent out an email earlier was that yesterday that you're like. Here's the schedule, and like a month from now, Dustin's already locked and loaded with his social media post.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Yes, that's correct. Dustin had the the last Thursday of this month, and a couple weeks ago he was on a ski trip, and he filmed up on the mountain at the peak of the mountain. He filmed some career tips while he was skiing. And he's like, I'm going to put this in socials. I was like, this is amazing. So I really thank our staff. They're just doing a great job. People are really getting into it. So.

 

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Natty Leach: This is really good at working ahead in a way that I am not. Whenever I work on him with a project he, like specifically will wait until closer to the event and then reach out to me and be like, all right, are we? Are we? Yeah.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: It's not good to ask you too far in advance. We we discussed nothing about what we would be discussing.

 

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Natty Leach: But not a word was spoken about what this podcast. Episode was gonna be about.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: As I was getting ready to come downstairs, Dustin said, Well, what are you guys talking about? And I went. Oh.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: I was like.

 

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Natty Leach: The world needs people like Dustin more than it needs. People like us sometimes.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: It does. It needs A, it needs a planner. But you know, I think Cs radio is best when it's spontaneous. So

 

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Michael DeAngelis: I definitely had. You know, I was definitely had spring break on the mind definitely had

 

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Michael DeAngelis: the the studio on mine, too. And I thought actually something that we I don't think, have talked about on the show, but it's something that comes up for you and I, and for I think most people in any sort of

 

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Michael DeAngelis: job and professional setting is like performance review and talking about your goals and all those sorts of things.

 

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Natty Leach: Do we have those coming up? Did I miss that.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: No! Well, we will, we we will at the end of the semester. Certainly they haven't. They haven't like. Set the alarm off yet. Hey, make sure you're doing this, but it'll be time soon enough. And I was, I was thinking about something today, something else I was working on. I was like I should really like.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Go into work day now and write this up all. It's fresh in my mind. But you know, I think obviously something that I'll be talking about, and I think you should definitely put it into yours is like the amount of work that we did.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: getting this studio ready.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: It's been a long road.

 

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Natty Leach: It's been a lot. It's been a lot of wires, a lot of cables, a lot of lifting, a lot of boxing and unboxing.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Yeah, we still, we've still got some cable work to to do. But but it is really great that it's here and it's working. And I think I think we both learned a lot about project management.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and

 

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Michael DeAngelis: when our when when our particular way of managing a project clashes with perhaps other folks. You know. It was a big group effort. It was

 

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Michael DeAngelis: not just Natty and I, but our colleague and friend, Chris from Penn global, because this is a shared space. And Penn global is going to be producing a lot of media. So they had their hand in this very heavily. But we also had to coordinate with the people building the building and with our vendors. I do want to give a shout out to our partners at B and H. Video and photo. They were really great partners in helping us select what equipment was necessary.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and Mitch Jacobson, who came and did all the installations. Mitch is a super cool guy.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and I'm looking forward to reconnecting with Mitch after spring break and and having him help us go the final mile here and and help us with some some tweaks, some fine tuning.

 

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Natty Leach: Mitch was amazing. I need more of Mitch's energy in my life, which is what I think. The next thing we need to do is, write down all the things that we're like. Wait a second he showed us is what we forget or like. How does this work? And he can give us another rundown.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: What you know, excitement and personal feelings aside like, do what did you feel?

 

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Michael DeAngelis: You learned, if anything, from this experience, from sort of a project management or professional development.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Aspect.

 

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Natty Leach: Let me think. I mean, there's definitely some like on the fly things we had to deal with where either our expectations were not quite what we were thinking things were gonna be when we got into the space. So we had to adapt a little bit.

 

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Natty Leach: I found there were times where I was much more flexible of like. It'll be fine! But also times where I was like, really precise, for how I wanted things to work like the acoustic tiles behind you. I was like weirdly obsessed with making sure they're lined up, and

 

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Natty Leach: as you were pointing towards it, I cannot help but keep noticing that the little blue tile above you should be a gray tile. So I'm gonna have to swap that one out.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: So if if this video, if we get the video of this out, which I think we will, you'll see directly behind my shoulder. We have some patterned acoustic tile. Natty spent

 

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Michael DeAngelis: a lot of time figuring out what this pattern would be, and Dustin and I helped him install it, but it was all I just want to say. It was all natty. He had a real vision for this. I think it looks great. There is. Yes, there's 1 misplaced color. So we're gonna.

 

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Natty Leach: Pattern broke.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: We're going to fix that. And you know, maybe we'll buy another pack. Maybe I can see on the camera. Yeah, maybe we could go down.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and I've just noticed the lights have gone gone out. That's another continuing issue. We're having.

 

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Natty Leach: Wait. Did they just go out now? I didn't even notice which is kind of an interesting.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: That's good to know.

 

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Natty Leach: Oh, there!

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Yeah.

 

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Natty Leach: I did notice that. Yeah.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: But yeah, I think learning to deal. So

 

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Michael DeAngelis: when you're working on a project, you have a vision. Right? So we and I wrote up a document very early on, probably 2 years ago, about what we wanted.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Our ideal podcast studio looked like, and we wrote up a long list of equipment

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and furniture and things that we would want features we would want, and we had a little bit of a back and forth.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Couple of things got cut early on, but overall I'm pretty close.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: We got what we wanted some, and then you go to the next step and you start talking with vendors.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and we say, this is our vision, and they go well, you don't really want that. What you want is this, and.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: boy golly!

 

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Michael DeAngelis: I found out very quickly what I didn't know, right? So I'm a little bit of a AV amateurist.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and then just dipping our toes into what the next level of professional camera and audio equipment is, I was like, Oh.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: I'm a little bit in over my head, which is an exciting place to be right. It was an I love an opportunity to learn particularly, learn new tech.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: learn new skills. And it's a lot I've got a lot to learn. Still.

 

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Natty Leach: We have so much more to still get out. B. And H. Was so helpful, though, because, like you said, there are things that we didn't know we needed. There were things that I even remember after we ordered it, we were unboxing. We're like, Oh, what's the difference between this thing and this.

 

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Natty Leach: yeah, for sure.

 

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Natty Leach: And we're still confused. But then, having Mitch actually come, I've never seen

 

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Natty Leach: set things up was so helpful.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Like it was a really ideal experience. There was a lot on the line. There was a lot on the line financially. I think there was a lot on the line reputationally for you and I, right? Because we we were the ones that said, We think this is important. We have a vision for this.

 

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Natty Leach: Well, Jerry's still out on the realization of our vision. The other thing that I think that I have not quite learned yet, but I know we need to learn about this new space is, how do we best get it utilized? Not just by us. I think we have a decently clear vision of how we want to use it for the podcast but how do we bring in other people to to reap the benefits of all the things.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Yeah, yeah.

 

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Natty Leach: Here throughout our office.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: And I think a big 1st step in that is, 1st we have to be. We have to become masters of this studio. So we know what's possible, and we know how to help people. It's too complicated for anybody to just step in on their own. So once once we've learned the ropes.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: And of course, once Lorna is back from her semester in Washington, we'll have a extra helping hand. That'll be. That'll be an also a major thing, because

 

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Michael DeAngelis: I'm managing to fly solo today in the room. But, boy, oh, boy, I wish you were here. I wish somebody was at the controls just just in case.

 

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Natty Leach: Yeah, it. It's kind of nerve wracking when you're sitting there, because you can't so much as far away. You can't see a lot of those things. So we're trying to think of ways to get that working. And I know there's people in our office that are super excited about this. I'm sure that Joseph. I'm surprised he hasn't already been down

 

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Natty Leach: around. I think he's being very patient of letting us figure things out first.st

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Green screen, just for Joseph.

 

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Natty Leach: And in the meantime, as we're figuring things out here, he is arming himself in one of the offices up on the 3rd floor with more and more gear as he.

 

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Natty Leach: It's true, more lights and more webcam arms, and also.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Basically a 1 man studio for himself, including bird's eye view for resume reviews. So you know, there's

 

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Michael DeAngelis: there's a lot of excitement about the new space that I think something you know that I'm taking away, is

 

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Michael DeAngelis: it? It is

 

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Michael DeAngelis: it's important. And this did take a lot of planning. And it's not, you know, Natty and I fly by the seat of our pants when it comes to sort of this podcast. And and event planning in general. But that's because we're confident

 

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Michael DeAngelis: in what we do. We know how to run a career services workshop. We know how to run this podcast so stepping into something that we

 

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Michael DeAngelis: had less confidence. But it was a you know. It was a new thing designing the studio.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and the people we were working with that were designing the building, who were terrific also were like, well, we're going to consider you the expert because we've never designed a studio. We don't know what should be there. So that's on. You. And I also have never designed a studio. We looked at a lot of pictures. We watched a lot of Youtube. We just pointed at Conan O'brien and said, This is what we want. So it was really important to learn

 

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Michael DeAngelis: from experts to talk to B and H to be very clear about what we wanted.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: It was difficult at first, st because we did. We also weren't given a budget.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: And so, you know, we kind of had to go to B and H. And say.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: just blue sky it for us. Here's what we want, and then put a price tag on it after, and we'll come back, which is not their preferred way of doing it. They'd like to know how much money you have to spend. But they were really great, and they gave us a couple of different versions of things, so that we could say, Okay, so this is the what we need at bare minimum. And here's what we need. Here's what would be great if we could add that on.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and a lot of back and forth.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and then finally, you know, and relying on on their

 

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Michael DeAngelis: expertise, but also asking a lot of questions and being really clear about what we wanted. They put a couple of things on there that I was like, I don't need like a $5,000 TV monitor. I think we've got about a hundred monitors in the closet that we can just hook up and use as a monitor. And they said, Well, you you can do that. But here's why you maybe want something different.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: And then we, you know, we negotiated down to something closer to what they had suggested, but at a much lower price. So that was all good. And and then finally, having, you know, the expert, come in, Mitch, and and really explain things to us and to be. And it's so. It's so great to know that we can rely on on him, that we can

 

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Michael DeAngelis: get back to him with questions and be like, Hey, you know, we did a couple of test recordings. And we're noticing, for example, like the 1st 30 seconds. There's a lot of digital distortion on these recordings. And what's going on there. And could you make some suggestions, or we really want to be able to have the cameras do this, and we haven't figured out how to do that? Can you let us know. So, not being afraid to ask questions, seeking out mentorship, because I think you know, if if Mitch had just been like Hey, I'm just here to plug these things in and leave.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and not, you know, not teach you how to use it. We would have had to go find somebody, whether that would have been Youtube and Mitch also left us a whole bunch of Youtube links to go through to learn how to do.

 

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Natty Leach: I gotta look at that. Is there a folder where that is? I should.

 

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Natty Leach: It is. It's it's in the Mitch works folder. So alright! I'll check that out.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Yeah, we should probably. Yeah, we should probably move those to a shared drive somewhere, so we can just click on them. But he was really it was, you know, super beneficial. And I always, when I have an experience like that.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: it reminds me that's how I should be. So when

 

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Michael DeAngelis: when my colleagues are doing social media things and they've got questions. I should remind myself that that's just because I know how to do it doesn't mean everybody knows how to do it. We should, you know I should be patient, and I should have answers. I should be, I should not be afraid to say, oh, I don't know that. Let me get back to you. I was on a call this morning

 

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Michael DeAngelis: with someone from Isc talking to a whole big group of people from all over the university, of all different, you know, staff faculty administrators about some changes that are happening with email. And

 

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Michael DeAngelis: this man was a saint.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: because people were asking what I thought were some pretty like, Oh, boy, kind of questions, right? Like.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: yeah, yeah, you you've used email before, right?

 

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Michael DeAngelis: And he was just. Oh, what a good question! And very calm, he said. And this is how that works, and or quite a few people ask things. And he said, You know this is a new product, and I don't know how that works. It's a great question. I'm writing it down, and I'm going to get back to you, or we'll put that in the FAQ that we're working on. I was like, this is such like that is such model

 

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Michael DeAngelis: leadership and listening, and that's something I really feel like.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Everybody should try and bring to a workplace. You know whether you're

 

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Michael DeAngelis: a boss or not. If you're there's something that you're in charge of, or something you're trying to teach people. It's so important to just be so open to what their questions and concerns are, and not

 

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Michael DeAngelis: judge them not.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: you know, just not have the expectation that everybody has the knowledge base that you do, even if it's something like email that you think? Well, my God, every email's been in everybody's life

 

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Michael DeAngelis: almost their whole lives. At this point

 

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Michael DeAngelis: some people are just like, well, it's just this magic thing right. I don't think about how it works.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: It just.

 

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Natty Leach: Message appears in front of me, but it's something we teach all of our Pcas. We teach all of our graduate assistants when we're hiring and training new advisors like we talk all the time about how

 

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Natty Leach: it will feel like when people ask you questions that you want to have the answers. But it's okay to say that you don't and and I think students respect that when we talk to them, I think anyone to your point in any workplace will respect someone who can say.

 

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Natty Leach: I don't know that right now, but I can. I can follow up with you and and take a look and it works well for our office because we can crowdsource. We have so many people. We're all generalists, anyway. But a lot of times like someone might approach you for a really specific question about working at a theater, or someone might approach me about music, industry, or whatever it might be we all have, like our own little niche areas that we can add to if we kind of open it up. But in the moment it's okay not to not to know everything all the time.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: So those are just some, some thoughts that I've been having about this process, and and you know, hope that I keep it with me, and I hope that when you're working on something, whether you're working on a group project or you have an assignment as an intern this summer, or you're just starting out at work. Those are some things that you'll take into the workplace with you as well.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Speaking of summer, you know again, we've we've been away for so long. It's our 1st chance to mention that career services. Summer funding has opened up. You want to talk a little bit about that and any I know. You've been involved a little bit in the process this year.

 

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Natty Leach: Yeah, I can talk a little bit. I'm going to be reviewing our 1st window of applicants later today. So we are in the in the middle of it. There are points throughout the entire semester. So if you didn't apply to this 1st window, there's another window coming up. I don't know what that date is offhand. But there, I think we do 4 rounds of reviews, and last year I think we even did a 5th round just to continue to offer as much resources we have available.

 

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Natty Leach: It's something like in the 400 to $500,000 range. We have access to to give students who are underpaid or unfunded great career opportunities that align with what they're interested in especially for those who are basically like middle income, or like middle funded in need. For from Penn.

 

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Natty Leach: The reason for that is all the high need students already have resources available to them. So we try to really fill that need for the people who are not quite at that high need level, but still receive scholarships, or funding from Penn and other sorts of way to make sure they could solve a really good summer experience in the area of their choice. The the biggest thing is you need to have an offer letter from the thing that you're planning on doing, and give us a really clear budget of what your plans are for that area to be able to articulate. Why, this will be helpful for you.

 

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Natty Leach: So it could be talking through. I'm going to be doing research in this field at this institution in California, and the housing that I'm able to secure that's most affordable is a little further away. So it'll help to also get a Metro pass, or whatever it might be, kind of lining that all out is super useful. We have all those details on our website. If you go to Careerservicesupenedu, and there is a section on how to find funding. And one of the 1st things in on that page is our summer funding option.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: There's 1 pretty notable change for this year, which is, if you're doing a research position at Penn

 

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Michael DeAngelis: that is going to be directly through curve instead of through us this year.

 

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Natty Leach: Yep, the curve specific stuff will go to them. So just be mindful when you're applying and similar. This has been the same in last year's. But if you're getting funding from other sources at Penn, it can't go above a certain threshold. I believe it's $5,000, so you have to let us know if you are getting funding other places. That's totally fine. But we can't exceed a certain amount, just a rule, from what we're able to provide

 

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Natty Leach: so just let us know about that.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: And what we're speaking of is specifically for current undergraduates. There is a separate funding line for graduate students. It's a little bit smaller, but the information is on in the same place. So if you're a graduate student and you're looking for a little bit of assistance, there is a separate process for that, you can find it in the same find funding place.

 

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Natty Leach: The only really exception is programs that have like big application fees. We don't cover those programs that are like making you pay to participate in that program, like our main goal, is for you to find a great opportunity, and if it's unfunded or unpaid, having us under or underpaid, finding a way to to have us kind of fill that gap as opposed to like us, paying for you to apply to this international program, or something like that?

 

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Natty Leach: We, I think, allow students to do it up to 2 different years during their time. So if you have received it in the past, if you're a sophomore, and maybe now it would be helpful for junior summer. You can definitely still apply. I think it's after 2, though we only we only do 2 times.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: I believe that's correct, and it's good for any returning

 

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Michael DeAngelis: students. So unfortunately, you're about to graduate. We cannot fund you for the summer, but if you are going to be returning in the fall.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: we are happy to have your application.

 

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Natty Leach: That's no.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Oh, go ahead!

 

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Natty Leach: I was just gonna say, we can also a lot of us as advisors don't review those applications for like assistance beforehand. But our Pcas are often willing to take a look. So if you wanted to have your your essay reviewed, or anything. Talking to, one of our peer advisors can be helpful. Some of our peer advisors themselves have received funding in the past, so they can talk about their own experience, too.

 

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Natty Leach: So while us as advisors won't necessarily provide that feedback, because we don't want to be in a conflict of interest, of working with a student individually, and then also reviewing the eligibility for their funding later. Our peer advisors are really good at that.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Well, I

 

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Michael DeAngelis: I hope everyone is enjoying their spring break. I hope you're someplace warm. It's a little windy here in Philadelphia. I don't know what the weather is going to be like this coming week, but it's a little windy right now, and, boy, when spring break, you know, we've we've kind of gotten through all the big career fairs. There'll be one more in April, a virtual just in Time fair. That's open. It's part of the ivy plus consortium. So a whole bunch of schools participating in that and the registration for that will open this coming Friday, the 14.th

 

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Michael DeAngelis: And we've got a lot of programming still on the board. I'm going to be very busy in the back half of the semester. I'm always over at the library as part of their hosely digital fellows program in the coming weeks. Joseph and I are going to be doing something about getting your Linkedin ready for the job search. I'm going to be doing my improv for interviewing over there in

 

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Michael DeAngelis: April, and I'm going to be doing that a whole bunch of times for Sp. 2. I'm going to be doing it for Sp 2 students. And I'm also going to be doing it for faculty and staff.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: So that's been real exciting that that's taken off. I didn't run the workshop, but I did a talk about the importance of improv and and how you can use those techniques when you're preparing to network or go on an interview as part of our alumni career tools, webinar, and that went great. I got a lot of great feedback. So it's a really exciting time for me, and I'm looking forward to that.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: And and then, you know, it's it's still only March, but

 

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Michael DeAngelis: graduation's going to be coming around the corner before you know it, and we will be over at the bookstore for grad Fest.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: I don't have the dates right in front of me. I believe it starts on the 18.th

 

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Natty Leach: March 19th through the 21, st I have it right behind my zoom window, because I just signed up for a time with you to go over there. Early on a Wednesday morning.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: So we'll be in the lobby at the bookstore, and we're going to be asking all our graduating seniors to please please please

 

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Michael DeAngelis: fill out their graduation plans, their 1st destination survey. Let us know. Do you have a job offer? Are you going to graduate school? Are you waiting to hear from graduate school. Are you waiting to hear for a job offer? Are you still looking? And like all those answers, are completely fine. We just like want to touch, base and know and and get a sort of barometer reading of where things are with the class, and we'll keep following up. The survey stays open through Thanksgiving.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: and it's it's you know. It's nobody is judging you on where you are. We just kind of want to know, and we want to know if we can be of help. So if you are still seeking, or maybe you're just getting started seeking which for a lot of industries that's totally acceptable and fine. You're going to not start your your, you know. You're ramping up your applications until closer to graduation because they hire as needed.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: We are here to help. And of course, if you come by the grad school we will have the grad fest at the bookstore. We're going to have a raffle. We're gonna have a great gift basket of stuff given away, and there's snack. There's always snacks. So at least come by and have a snack.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: And yeah, Natty, and I'll be there Wednesday morning, please, for the love of God, bring me coffee. Natty doesn't drink coffee. Bring him a cold beverage.

 

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Natty Leach: Mountain Dew is fine.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Mountain Dew Mountain dew will do it. So really, looking forward to it. Hope you're all having a great spring break, Natty, I'm so excited. I'm so excited that we're here in podcast land again, in our new studio. And next week I hope you're sitting across from me at the table and not not on the big screen.

 

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Natty Leach: I'll I'll find a way there. Hey? We've never been seen in the same place together before, so on camera, I guess, at least, so who knows?

 

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Michael DeAngelis: It's true, it's true. Well, again, we're so excited to be back. We got a lot of exciting things planned. Can't wait to get the show up on Youtube.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Can't wait to finish out the semester strong.

 

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Michael DeAngelis: Hope you're having a safe and happy spring break, and we'll see you next time on CS Radio.